The RTX 3060 Ti is meant to be available for $400 and the RTX 3070 for $500, with the 6700 XT at $480. But no need to lose sleep over that one as today we have another 50 game benchmark comparing the RTX 3060 Ti and 6700 XT, so we can put that debate to rest.

Technically speaking, the 6700 XT is priced closer to the RTX 3070 based on MSRP. Some readers were upset with that comparison though, claiming the 6700 XT was designed to compete with the RTX 3060 Ti, a comparison we were always going to make anyway. It was a close battle for the most part, but the RTX 3070 was faster and considering the feature set, it seemed like the way to go, assuming pricing is competitive. That's been Ati's architecture for 5 yeasrs already and they are continuing with it, except they are going with 4D now because it's been found over and over again that their average ALU utilization was around 3.6-4.5 all the time.We recently compared the GeForce RTX 3070 against the Radeon RX 6700 XT in a 50 game head-to-head battle and the GeForce got the better of the exchanges. Nvidia is adding parallelism with superscalar SIMDs, but it works the same way, it adds more throughoutput without adding a lot of transistors, at the expense of some inhefficiency. Figure it out how many they can add through parallelism* until they are close or even mid-way to Ati's number of SPs. Like I said, GF104 has much more than 66% of the working units in GF100 put together in 66% of transistors, my point being that SPs themselves, don't take a lot of space and hence a comparatively small 768 SP Nvidia chip is feasible. Everything was intended, including when I based it on the RV770, because he based his on GF100, etc.Д«ottom line is that it's not as easy as saying double the SPs = double die size, or double that part of the chip, whatever. You missed the part where I said I was going to make an arbitrary calculation. and I may be thinking of retiring my loyal 4890 if the 6xxx cards are worthy. Bulldozer is a good example where they make 2 CPU into 1.15x size of 1 CPU with minimal compromise in speed. Possibly a 334*90% = 301mm^2 ? still much bigger than the 170mm of juniper though.ДЄMD's general direction has been to make smaller chip that maintains same performance which result in better energy efficiency and reduced production cost. Semi accurate says something like 80% of the previous gen processor size. Now thats is something mighty impressive.

Their new Northern island is even smaller than the previous generation of processors. But then if ATI wants to sell these stuff cheaply and still make good profit, they need to shrink the size while still using 40nm manufacturing. First thing come to my mind is that the chip could be at least as big as the 5870. What I'm impressed is that the chip is meant to be a mid-range card with the same number of processors as a 5870 and 256bit mem bandwidth. you can read this unclear info from semi accurate. The ATI new processors are called northern islands, right? I mean ATI always had processors with x5 output and now, they shift their focus toward extra DP computing. So the shader/tmu area is 80% that of Cypress, everything else being equal.ДЄnd as you can see the SP area is like 1/3 the chip. :shadedshuДЄnd just to see how stupid your numbers are, let's calculate Bart and Cayman shall we?Д«arts: It's almost a Cypress, except the shaders are 4D instead of 5D. Of course it's almost as arbitrary as yours, but at least is based on the correct number os SP/TMU in GF104 and I'm not basing it on how much area each unit takes ion GF100, because it's not going to be based in GF100. I did my numbers too and the resulted die area is 520mm^2. increase? Like I said in GF104 Nvidia added many SPs and TMUs over the hypothetical 66% of a GF100 chip and that did not add any transistor. Have you read my post at all? Why are you adding A LOT of die area based on linear SP/TMU/etc. GF104 has 384 CUDA cores, with one SM, 48 SPs being disabled. Sorry I stopped paying attention after the first line, because it would be pointless.

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